Changes to Hynes Convention Center Entry Procedures

[tetsujin]

Guys, we know the policy isn't popular, but it's what we have to do.

I get that. I understand, and I will cooperate. But it's still really unpleasant, unfortunate news. I expect I'll effectively be stuck in the con center all day. I think that's worth lamenting a bit.

[Shinden]

Guys, we know the policy isn't popular, but it's what we have to do.

I get that. I understand, and I will cooperate. But it's still really unpleasant, unfortunate news. I expect I'll effectively be stuck in the con center all day. I think that's worth lamenting a bit.

Exactly. We're not saying "AB WHY DID YOU DO THIS MAKE IT STOP"

We're expressing our extreme discomfort with this.

You can't post a link saying "Discuss on the forums" and then immediately tell us to quit whinging. Discussion isn't "Lol I guess I need to wear god's personally signed punch to the throat of fashion instead of using an actual bag ^-^ ChinaBoston Strong!" Discussion does include our grievances as well. None of us are screaming at AB staff to fix it or anything.

We are expressing our honest opinions with what we see as a kabuki act to make flighty people feel more "secure" at an event that has gone off without a hitch for ten years, at a convention centre that has held thousands of completely safe events without a need for bag checks. Some of you feel "better" or safer? That's great! Not all of us do. And logically, this measure is an overreaction to events. Russia hasn't turned their movie theatre entrances into TSA screenings.

[Wemble]

I'm all for bag checks, but I'm worried about the congestion for my uncle's sake. He uses a scooter and it was bad enough last year with people shoving ahead of him and other handicapped people trying to get in faster as well as other people being extremely inconsiderate, like rushing onto empty elevators that he's waiting for for 10 minutes because they're the only ones he can get into, blocking the handicapped ramp in the Pru and other areas. With this I'm really worried that people are going to be doing the first two things even more in a rush to get back and forth because of this. I'm less concerned about my own disabilities that leave me needing to go back to my hotel room to rest often.

Also while I do know Disney and other theme parks have the type of bag checks we're having, I was there just 2 weeks ago I still think people have the right to be a little concerned. Disney World, Universal, all those theme parks are well oiled machines with people who do it all the time and several stands for bag checks. I'm not saying Anime Boston is run poorly or that the people doing them don't do them often, but it's not on the level that those theme parks do it.

That being said, is there going to be a 'no bag' entrance as they do in the theme parks in an attempt to cut traffic down?

Again, I think people can be concerned or even a little annoyed even if they agree with it. Doesn't necessarily mean they're annoyed at the staff, rather the situation, as understandable as it is.

Hopefully things will go smoother than expected.

[Sakura-chan]

Also while I do know Disney and other theme parks have the type of bag checks we're having, I was there just 2 weeks ago I still think people have the right to be a little concerned. Disney World, Universal, all those theme parks are well oiled machines with people who do it all the time and several stands for bag checks. I'm not saying Anime Boston is run poorly or that the people doing them don't do them often, but it's not on the level that those theme parks do it.

That being said, is there going to be a 'no bag' entrance as they do in the theme parks in an attempt to cut traffic down?

Why wouldn't it be? They are security personnel from the MCCA. Unless they're hiring an entire gaggle of n00bs, I'm pretty sure they've done bag checks many times before.

However, I do agree that it would be cool if there were a no bag entrance for those people that don't carry one. I never take a bag with me unless I have a set plan to go eat, or go shopping in dealer's/AA, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate a no bag entrance.

[Aurabolt]

My questions were never answered but I will not change the type of bag I use over this. I'm used to it when I got to City Hall only at City Hall you're asked to empty all of your pockets as well (and thus I have to remember to not bring my swiss army knife with me if I wanna keep it).

I usually bring two bags on Saturday for the Swap Meet so...yeah. The silver lining this year is my new Laptop does fit inside my backpack, which means I don't need to bring my laptop travel case with me ^_^

[Wemble]

Also while I do know Disney and other theme parks have the type of bag checks we're having, I was there just 2 weeks ago I still think people have the right to be a little concerned. Disney World, Universal, all those theme parks are well oiled machines with people who do it all the time and several stands for bag checks. I'm not saying Anime Boston is run poorly or that the people doing them don't do them often, but it's not on the level that those theme parks do it.

That being said, is there going to be a 'no bag' entrance as they do in the theme parks in an attempt to cut traffic down?

Why wouldn't it be? They are security personnel from the MCCA. Unless they're hiring an entire gaggle of n00bs, I'm pretty sure they've done bag checks many times before.

However, I do agree that it would be cool if there were a no bag entrance for those people that don't carry one. I never take a bag with me unless I have a set plan to go eat, or go shopping in dealer's/AA, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate a no bag entrance.

Your answer to that was in my original post.

"But it's not on the level that those theme parks do it."

I'm not saying they haven't done many, but I'm saying people are comparing it to how the theme parks do it and the theme parks are an entirely different situation and on another level.

[magicatt]

Can I get clarification on whether the handicapped line policy (IE people in wheelchairs go to the front) will also be enforced for the getting into the con bag check line? Will there be some sort of prioritizing?

[redseedsprofile]

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I hope AB's staff isn't underestimating the level of congestion this will inevitably create, both from the lines to get into the con and the overload of people who won't leave it so they can avoid doing the line a second time. It's also going to cause serious problems for people handicapped either by medical issues, or elaborate costumes and props.

I know it's not AB's fault, but if these measures are implemented for a second time next year, I will be seriously reconsidering my attendance. This does nothing to actually keep anyone safe; it would be incredibly easy for a committed terrorist to bypass. It's just posturing so people can feel like something is being done and the police can look like they're doing their job, even though the risks haven't changed.

And everyone would be just as shocked and scared if another bombing happened tomorrow. So much for "#BOSTONSTRONG." It's about as meaningful as when Bush told everyone to fight terrorism by buying crap at Wal-Mart.

[LegendaryBroli]

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I hope AB's staff isn't underestimating the level of congestion this will inevitably create, both from the lines to get into the con and the overload of people who won't leave it so they can avoid doing the line a second time. It's also going to cause serious problems for people handicapped either by medical issues, or elaborate costumes and props.

I know it's not AB's fault, but if these measures are implemented for a second time next year, I will be seriously reconsidering my attendance. This does nothing to actually keep anyone safe; it would be incredibly easy for a committed terrorist to bypass. It's just posturing so people can feel like something is being done and the police can look like they're doing their job, even though the risks haven't changed.

And everyone would be just as shocked and scared if another bombing happened tomorrow. So much for "#BOSTONSTRONG." It's about as meaningful as when Bush told everyone to fight terrorism by buying crap at Wal-Mart.

Alright why is everyone panicking. I mean like others said, baseball games do the exact same thing as bag checks and rightfully so after what happened in Boston. And how will bag checks stop you from leaving to go to eat? I mean how do you know there won't be maybe a separate line for people without bags. As for buying questionable material in the dealers room maybe it will be best not to buy it if you're worried about the guard looking at it. Also as I read it in the opening post, they're only looking at bags when you enter the convention center.

[basharoftheages]

Point of clarification... Amusement parks, sporting arenas, etc. are designed with many extremely large entrances that can facilitate lots of people going through at once - the Hynes is not. Apples and Oranges. It will be interesting to see the logistics of how this all works out. There isn't exactly a lot of room in that area outside the mall entrance to put lines without interfering with the stores in the area.

[LegendaryBroli]

You're missing the point that stadiums house just as much as conventions do or more and the security there can handle it. I think the security at the con should be up to the task

[Sayoria]

We will see. Even without a bag check, those doors are a tight squeeze every year as much as it is. Remember, we need an exit door too, which leaves one or two doors for entry in the mall part of the Hynes, which isn't exactly going to be spacious. There "will" be many problems with this.

[RapaxGuardian]

Personally, I'm viewing 2013 as sort of a trial run year; if bag check becomes a major issue, and it's implemented again in 2014, I'll seriously reconsider attending in 2014.
As for this year, as understanding as I am, I seriously, seriously hope all goes well with these bag checks. Here's hoping this doesn't become a different type of LineCon!

[MetalshadowN64]

This is getting really annoying on how much people are over-reacting and being paranoid. I honestly don't like the idea of these bag checks either, but as I and others said before it could be much worse.

Hell did anyone consider that they could have just cancelled/postponed AB this year? Compared to that scenario I'll gladly take bag checks! And I'm sure the AB staff know this will be a major hassle, so the bag checks will be quick. And by quick I mean they just have you open your bag so they can just a peek inside for 4 seconds and make sure your not carrying anything dangerous (like a pressure cooker) and check your badge as well. If your wise; start to open your bag before you get to the point where they check it. That'll make their jobs easier and quicker which of course means the line goes by quicker.

Instead of people over-reacting and raging over this, perhaps you should take a breather for 5 minutes and think rationally! I mean this isn't rocket science or trying to figure out the ending to Evangelion! I think we can all handle this if we try!

[Shinden]

As for buying questionable material in the dealers room maybe it will be best not to buy it if you're worried about the guard looking at it.

Half of us go to these cons for the specific reason of buying these things. Stuff like figs and doujinshi we either can't find online or are too expensive to buy online. So why should we forgo one of the basic reasons we came here? Why is that "best"?

It's like suggesting we shouldn't buy anything at a porn shop.

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I hope AB's staff isn't underestimating the level of congestion this will inevitably create, both from the lines to get into the con and the overload of people who won't leave it so they can avoid doing the line a second time. It's also going to cause serious problems for people handicapped either by medical issues, or elaborate costumes and props.

I know it's not AB's fault, but if these measures are implemented for a second time next year, I will be seriously reconsidering my attendance. This does nothing to actually keep anyone safe; it would be incredibly easy for a committed terrorist to bypass. It's just posturing so people can feel like something is being done and the police can look like they're doing their job, even though the risks haven't changed.

And everyone would be just as shocked and scared if another bombing happened tomorrow. So much for "#BOSTONSTRONG." It's about as meaningful as when Bush told everyone to fight terrorism by buying crap at Wal-Mart.

I agree with the majority of what you said. Not to mention, this method will just make the most crowded parts of the convention *outside the area secured from danger*.

Since the MCCA is the responsible party here (and not Anime Boston or NEAS), perchance we should consider, after this con, recording our experiences and organising to petition MCCA and threatening to boycott their venues unless they stop this practice?

Also, if I may request details, how much of our badge purchase goes to the Hynes? Because if I did boycott the convention centre, I would gladly and willingly donate the difference to NEAS.

EDIT: Accidentally a formatting error

[MetalshadowN64]

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I agree with the majority of what you said. Not to mention, this method will just make the most crowded parts of the convention *outside the area secured from danger*.

Since the MCCA is the responsible party here (and not Anime Boston or NEAS), perchance we should consider, after this con, recording our experiences and organising to petition MCCA and threatening to boycott their venues unless they stop this practice?

Also, if I may request details, how much of our badge purchase goes to the Hynes? Because if I did boycott the convention centre, I would gladly and willingly donate the difference to NEAS.

Isn't that a bit too much a case of "cart before the horse"? Cause not unless you have a time machine and went to the con in future and came back two weeks prior, I dont think anyone here knows how bad it will be. It might not be as bad you all are making it out to be!

Frankly I think you all are just being paranoid. Be optimistic!

[LegendaryBroli]

As for buying questionable material in the dealers room maybe it will be best not to buy it if you're worried about the guard looking at it.

Half of us go to these cons for the specific reason of buying these things. Stuff like figs and doujinshi we either can't find online or are too expensive to buy online. So why should we forgo one of the basic reasons we came here? Why is that "best"?

It's like suggesting we shouldn't buy anything at a porn shop.

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I hope AB's staff isn't underestimating the level of congestion this will inevitably create, both from the lines to get into the con and the overload of people who won't leave it so they can avoid doing the line a second time. It's also going to cause serious problems for people handicapped either by medical issues, or elaborate costumes and props.

I know it's not AB's fault, but if these measures are implemented for a second time next year, I will be seriously reconsidering my attendance. This does nothing to actually keep anyone safe; it would be incredibly easy for a committed terrorist to bypass. It's just posturing so people can feel like something is being done and the police can look like they're doing their job, even though the risks haven't changed.

And everyone would be just as shocked and scared if another bombing happened tomorrow. So much for "#BOSTONSTRONG." It's about as meaningful as when Bush told everyone to fight terrorism by buying crap at Wal-Mart.

I agree with the majority of what you said. Not to mention, this method will just make the most crowded parts of the convention *outside the area secured from danger*.

Since the MCCA is the responsible party here (and not Anime Boston or NEAS), perchance we should consider, after this con, recording our experiences and organising to petition MCCA and threatening to boycott their venues unless they stop this practice?

Also, if I may request details, how much of our badge purchase goes to the Hynes? Because if I did boycott the convention centre, I would gladly and willingly donate the difference to NEAS.

EDIT: Accidentally a formatting error

Ok a few things I just think people are just a tad bit over-reacting to these bag checks I mean like ab staff had said these checks are only happening when people enter the convention center not when they leave so if you or someone is buying "questionable" material then take out to your car or back to your hotel. No need to be carrying it around with you in and out of the con on meal breaks. Also, I don't think lines going in might not be that because people come and go from the con at different times and I think the mcca authority has taken in the account of how many people will or might be at the con and set security accordingly. Also you talk about boycotting the venue and the con before the con has happen. I think that's jumping the gun when AB staff has assured the con goers that will not be a long process and I have been to ball games with my family to know it doesnt

[heyyouthere]

First it is going to be a bag check then you will announce that the police "reserve the right" to search people 'they think are shady'.
If I pack my backpack full of bean-bag Styrofoam and the bag search makes a huge mess, who has to pick it up?

[Wemble]

As for buying questionable material in the dealers room maybe it will be best not to buy it if you're worried about the guard looking at it.

Half of us go to these cons for the specific reason of buying these things. Stuff like figs and doujinshi we either can't find online or are too expensive to buy online. So why should we forgo one of the basic reasons we came here? Why is that "best"?

It's like suggesting we shouldn't buy anything at a porn shop.

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I hope AB's staff isn't underestimating the level of congestion this will inevitably create, both from the lines to get into the con and the overload of people who won't leave it so they can avoid doing the line a second time. It's also going to cause serious problems for people handicapped either by medical issues, or elaborate costumes and props.

I know it's not AB's fault, but if these measures are implemented for a second time next year, I will be seriously reconsidering my attendance. This does nothing to actually keep anyone safe; it would be incredibly easy for a committed terrorist to bypass. It's just posturing so people can feel like something is being done and the police can look like they're doing their job, even though the risks haven't changed.

And everyone would be just as shocked and scared if another bombing happened tomorrow. So much for "#BOSTONSTRONG." It's about as meaningful as when Bush told everyone to fight terrorism by buying crap at Wal-Mart.

I agree with the majority of what you said. Not to mention, this method will just make the most crowded parts of the convention *outside the area secured from danger*.

Since the MCCA is the responsible party here (and not Anime Boston or NEAS), perchance we should consider, after this con, recording our experiences and organising to petition MCCA and threatening to boycott their venues unless they stop this practice?

Also, if I may request details, how much of our badge purchase goes to the Hynes? Because if I did boycott the convention centre, I would gladly and willingly donate the difference to NEAS.

EDIT: Accidentally a formatting error

Ok a few things I just think people are just a tad bit over-reacting to these bag checks I mean like ab staff had said these checks are only happening when people enter the convention center not when they leave so if you or someone is buying "questionable" material then take out to your car or back to your hotel. No need to be carrying it around with you in and out of the con on meal breaks. Also, I don't think lines going in might not be that because people come and go from the con at different times and I think the mcca authority has taken in the account of how many people will or might be at the con and set security accordingly. Also you talk about boycotting the venue and the con before the con has happen. I think that's jumping the gun when AB staff has assured the con goers that will not be a long process and I have been to ball games with my family to know it doesnt

Have you.. have you actually been to one of these cons before?

The ballparks, amusement parks have a lot more entrances and bigger ones to accommodate these things. The Hynes does not. As many have said, it's a congested mess even without bag checks. No matter what time of day you go.

Not everyone is going to be able to go back to their hotel room to put their 'questionable purchases' away. Not everyone can afford to stay at the Sheraton, not everyone coming has a car or gets there by car. There's a very big reality of people starving and exhausting themselves simply because they don't want to leave and have to wait in what could very well be a long bag check line again or be judged by the person checking their bag.

There's a difference between paranoia and making an educated prediction. It's very naive of you if you think all bag checks are created equal, even if they're the same kind of bag check.

[azyryan]

I get why everyone is really worried about this...I am too...but honestly I think we all should just wait and see what actually happens when the con comes before people start talking about petitions or whatever...
Like someone else said, I'm going to treat this as a trial run sort of thing...sure it may be rough but if its honestly that bad this year then don't go back next year...
But like honestly people need to understand that this is only being done in response to what happened a few weeks ago...you may be more concerned right now about lines and enjoying your weekend, but we all really need to just think about why this is being done and move on...coz as unlikely as you think it may be for something to happen enlight of what did everyone just needs to chill out about the inevitable lines...

[DrakaDark]

The issue with previous years with crowds at the door has been for a two reasons people on the "in" door and people at the "out" door just hanging around talking blocking peoples way. don't block the entrances to talk move out of the way. Also you know there are people there looking to check your badges just have them ready its not that hard.

[Sefam]

First it is going to be a bag check then you will announce that the police "reserve the right" to search people 'they think are shady'.
If I pack my backpack full of bean-bag Styrofoam and the bag search makes a huge mess, who has to pick it up?

Pretty much this.

Frankly, if there's one mistake I did, it's to pre-register for this convention too early. Considering that the procedure is out of Anime Boston's hands, and that yet more might remain to be announced, a lot could go wrong. Besides, the whole bag check procedure sounds like a foil for the convention centre not to have a hike in insurance, and if something happens, they can wash their hands of it.

It's pretty much how video game publishers expect you to pre-order, and then deliver a poor product. Considering that Animazement is the same weekend, I definitely regret my decision or pre-registering and taking arrangements this early for Anime Boston, and I won't be doing the same mistake next year. I don't care if it's the convention, the convention centre, or the police; the result is the same for me, the consumer.

[Sakura-chan]

Not everyone is going to be able to go back to their hotel room to put their 'questionable purchases' away. Not everyone can afford to stay at the Sheraton, not everyone coming has a car or gets there by car. There's a very big reality of people starving and exhausting themselves simply because they don't want to leave and have to wait in what could very well be a long bag check line again or be judged by the person checking their bag.

There's a difference between paranoia and making an educated prediction. It's very naive of you if you think all bag checks are created equal, even if they're the same kind of bag check.

If you are starving or exhausting yourself just to go to an anime convention, you really need to re-think your priorities. "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." Anime conventions happen practically every weekend throughout the year, all over the country. Skipping one in order to be better prepared for a different one is not exactly the end of the world.

Some of you guys are thinking waaaaay too far into all of this. Better not think about going to any big sports events or concerts or theme parks if you're that worried. You say we're naive, I say you're paranoid. [Do you guys seriously think the security guards are going to "judge" you for what you have in your bag? Follow you around and make fun of you for having a hentai book or something? Come on...]

Oh, and yes, the guards do have the right to search people that they think are shady. That's kind of, um, their job. If you don't have anything to hide, then it shouldn't be a problem. I've been selected for a random search by the TSA twice before - it took a whopping five minutes and I'm still alive to tell the tale today. [They did make me throw out my orange juice though. Such a tragedy.]

[basharoftheages]

There is quite a bit of crazy :tinfoil: up in here, but the only bit of sane doubt that resonates as worthy of concern is that (due to how many more bags, how much coming and going, etc.) there's gonna be about 20x the amount of bag checking going on than a typical game at Fenway, mostly through a 30 ft entrance way in/out of the mall area. If people think that can be accomplished in a reasonable amount of time to not cause massive lines to form, then good on them.

If AB security were running the show I'd say they'd band together and get it done nice and smoothly and fast as possible. I don't feel the MCAA rent-a-cops are going to place your expedience and enjoyment of the event high up on their give-a-poopy-o-meter, though.

[LegendaryBroli]

As for buying questionable material in the dealers room maybe it will be best not to buy it if you're worried about the guard looking at it.

Half of us go to these cons for the specific reason of buying these things. Stuff like figs and doujinshi we either can't find online or are too expensive to buy online. So why should we forgo one of the basic reasons we came here? Why is that "best"?

It's like suggesting we shouldn't buy anything at a porn shop.

This truly sucks ass. I'm not going to be able to temporarily leave the convention to get lunch at the food court or whatever, because no way in hell am I getting back in that line to wait forever, then show some cop whatever questionable material I picked up at the dealers' room so he can give me a disapproving look and jab it with a stick.

I hope AB's staff isn't underestimating the level of congestion this will inevitably create, both from the lines to get into the con and the overload of people who won't leave it so they can avoid doing the line a second time. It's also going to cause serious problems for people handicapped either by medical issues, or elaborate costumes and props.

I know it's not AB's fault, but if these measures are implemented for a second time next year, I will be seriously reconsidering my attendance. This does nothing to actually keep anyone safe; it would be incredibly easy for a committed terrorist to bypass. It's just posturing so people can feel like something is being done and the police can look like they're doing their job, even though the risks haven't changed.

And everyone would be just as shocked and scared if another bombing happened tomorrow. So much for "#BOSTONSTRONG." It's about as meaningful as when Bush told everyone to fight terrorism by buying crap at Wal-Mart.

I agree with the majority of what you said. Not to mention, this method will just make the most crowded parts of the convention *outside the area secured from danger*.

Since the MCCA is the responsible party here (and not Anime Boston or NEAS), perchance we should consider, after this con, recording our experiences and organising to petition MCCA and threatening to boycott their venues unless they stop this practice?

Also, if I may request details, how much of our badge purchase goes to the Hynes? Because if I did boycott the convention centre, I would gladly and willingly donate the difference to NEAS.

EDIT: Accidentally a formatting error

Ok a few things I just think people are just a tad bit over-reacting to these bag checks I mean like ab staff had said these checks are only happening when people enter the convention center not when they leave so if you or someone is buying "questionable" material then take out to your car or back to your hotel. No need to be carrying it around with you in and out of the con on meal breaks. Also, I don't think lines going in might not be that because people come and go from the con at different times and I think the mcca authority has taken in the account of how many people will or might be at the con and set security accordingly. Also you talk about boycotting the venue and the con before the con has happen. I think that's jumping the gun when AB staff has assured the con goers that will not be a long process and I have been to ball games with my family to know it doesnt

Have you.. have you actually been to one of these cons before?

The ballparks, amusement parks have a lot more entrances and bigger ones to accommodate these things. The Hynes does not. As many have said, it's a congested mess even without bag checks. No matter what time of day you go.

Not everyone is going to be able to go back to their hotel room to put their 'questionable purchases' away. Not everyone can afford to stay at the Sheraton, not everyone coming has a car or gets there by car. There's a very big reality of people starving and exhausting themselves simply because they don't want to leave and have to wait in what could very well be a long bag check line again or be judged by the person checking their bag.

There's a difference between paranoia and making an educated prediction. It's very naive of you if you think all bag checks are created equal, even if they're the same kind of bag check.

Okay here's my response: I've been to numerous cons, even though it is my first AB, in total I've been to 9 cons, three of them were at Otakon so yeah I know how crowded the lines can be and I'm prepared for the lines and the time it might take in due to the bag checks and ballparks entrances if you haven't been to one can be congested depending on how many people go. Oh and Ballparks actually average the same number of people that a con is sized or larger depending if you go to minor league or majors and this policy might be new but I don't think AB is the only con or trade show in the Hynes or the Boston convention center that it has been subjected to the policy since what happened at the marathon. So I certainly think security and the police should be able to handle the number of people that are coming to the con.

Also I don't see people actually starving themselves or exhausting themselves just because of the bag checks, lets be real there. And if you're really worried that someone is going to judge you or care if they are like I said don't buy those kind of "inappropriate" material if you are afraid to be judged. It's simply as that, nobody is forcing you to buy those things. It's a matter of choice. That is also a educated opinion.

Also you do know right they're kicking people out of the hynes after a certain time anyways it's not like people will be able to stay in the convention center all 72 hours. That's fact

[Fetch]

Also you do know right they're kicking people out of the hynes after a certain anyways it's not like people will be able to stay in the convention center all 72 hours. That's fact

Yes. The Hynes is closed from 2am-8am. It is so the MCCA has time to clean the floors and such.

This is why the schedule usually has stuff starting at 9am.

I've been to every AB except 2004, so I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about how things usually are. But that doesn't mean they won't change things.

[MetalshadowN64]

Okay here's my response: I've been to numerous cons, even though it is my first AB, in total I've been to 9 cons, three of them were at Otakon so yeah I know how crowded the lines can be and I'm prepared for the lines and the time it might take in due to the bag checks and ballparks entrances if you haven't been to one can be congested depending on how many people go. Oh and Ballparks actually average the same number of people that a con is sized or larger depending if you go to minor league or majors and this policy might be new but I don't think AB is the only con or trade show in the Hynes or the Boston convention center that it has been subjected to the policy since what happened at the marathon. So I certainly think security and the police should be able to handle the number of people that are coming to the con.

Yeah, I think I heard there was a con going either the following weekend of the Marathon Bombing or the weekend after. Hell, might have been a few more since then, its been what? A month now? And even if they haven't, I'm sure the MCAA have got this figured out how to preform the bag checks as quick as possible.

And honestly if you really feel one of those guards is harassing you for buying something hentai, then file a complaint about the guard! Don't start a riot or protest! That's like killing a fly with a rocket launcher - friggin overkill! I'm pretty sure you can mention the harassment to the Security HQ (I think its the same place as where we are to get our props checked)

If you are starving or exhausting yourself just to go to an anime convention, you really need to re-think your priorities. "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." Anime conventions happen practically every weekend throughout the year, all over the country. Skipping one in order to be better prepared for a different one is not exactly the end of the world.

Some of you guys are thinking waaaaay too far into all of this. Better not think about going to any big sports events or concerts or theme parks if you're that worried. You say we're naive, I say you're paranoid. [Do you guys seriously think the security guards are going to "judge" you for what you have in your bag? Follow you around and make fun of you for having a hentai book or something? Come on...]

Oh, and yes, the guards do have the right to search people that they think are shady. That's kind of, um, their job. If you don't have anything to hide, then it shouldn't be a problem. I've been selected for a random search by the TSA twice before - it took a whopping five minutes and I'm still alive to tell the tale today. [They did make me throw out my orange juice though. Such a tragedy.]

You require a medal for these paragraphs of sanity.

[magicatt]

If you are starving or exhausting yourself just to go to an anime convention, you really need to re-think your priorities.

Some of you guys are thinking waaaaay too far into all of this. Better not think about going to any big sports events or concerts or theme parks if you're that worried.

Some of us are concerned that we may wind up exhausting ourselves because of medical issues and disabilities. Not everyone is perfectly able-bodied but that doesn't mean that we don't have a right to attend. My questions were so I could plan appropriately. I find it sad that no one has addressed how the disabled are supposed to handle whatever extra time this adds to our attempting to get into the con. Yes, I do run myself right on the edge of exhaustion for the con--it happens once a year and then I have 365-ish days to recuperate. Sadly, not knowing how long these bag checks are expected to take or whether disabled people will be pulled out of line and brought to the front makes it much harder to plan. I usually come in just before I need to so as not to waste my energy sitting in the halls doing nothing. I drive in so I can't just wait in my hotel room, before you suggest that. My energy is limited and I am very afraid that a bunch of it will be wasted in bag check lines. These are real concerns and not overreactions.

And, incidentally, EVERY other place I've ever been has had a disabled patron policy that is clearly posted somewhere or a number to someone who is more than happy to help me figure it out--Disney World, TD Garden, Fenway Park. The Hynes does not. I've looked. If the AB staff were in charge of this, I wouldn't have any worries because they have been nothing but awesome and helpful to me but the Hynes doesn't seem to care.

[Sakura-chan]

So, if you are disabled and are very concerned about all of the things you mentioned, why not phone the Hynes itself and inquire? It may make you feel better to rant think of all of the horrible scenarios that could occur, but no one from the Hynes is going to see it here on this forum. There has to be someone you can speak to directly, because ensuring the safety of the injured or disabled is important (and it should be important to them as well.)

Make sure you write down the names of everyone you speak to just in case anyone tries to give you the run-around.

[Holymist]

Ok so I've been reading this and I've been trying to stay out but, I feel I need to post.

I agree on:
1. Lines might be crazy. It's a given, it's a new process.
-What am I gonna do about it? Get there early and figure out how long it takes me to get through so I can time the things I want to see/do.
2. The MCCA are probably going to be a little gruff about it.
- What am I gonna do about it? Keep moving because out of 20,000 people they certainly won't remember my face, or what I have in my bag. Unless I give them a reason to remember my face. Also, that's 1 person out of my day, I certainly won't let him get me down.
3. People with Disabilities having issues getting around.
- I have heard a lot of people say they've had issues getting around because people are jerks. There's not much I can do for that but, if I see you having issues I most certainly will jump up to help, if I can.

Thing's I don't agree on:
1. Someone mentioned bringing packing peanuts stuffed in a backpack.
- Are you actually intending to bring a backpack full of tiny little Styrofoam balls?If so, then I agree it's a, somewhat, legit question. Although I would say, if you know ahead of time there will be bag checks why would you bring them? That's almost like walking around suspiciously on purpose to freak people out and then getting angry when someone finally says something. However, if this is a "what if" question, then it's a little out there as a question. I can't really think of any reason you would need an entire backpack full of tiny Styrofoam.
2. That the MCCA is going to judge you about what you bring it.
- What will I do? Exactly what I said above, keep moving because he won't remember you and he doesn't know your name. 20,000 people plus all those people going in more than once with 20,000 bags means you're a blip on the radar as they check bags for 8 hours.

Lines are going to happen, I just hope that they spend some time this year making sure people don't stand in front of the Hynes door by the DD's all day long, that tends to be why we have tons of traffic there. People stand around taking photos, talking, goofing off and then those of us trying to get out have to play 'thread the needle' and weave our way through them which backs up traffic at the doors even more.

I'm going to see this as everyone else has said, as a trial run. If it's crappy, and i mean beyond crappy maybe I'll reconsider things next year. Will I say something if I find it unbearable? Yes, and I'm sure if it is they will find a way to compromise, hopefully on next years bag check (if they still have it).

Just my $.02

[thepolishpixie]

I sewed hidden pockets all over my cosplay so I wouldn't have to bring a bag. Problem solved

[egyptianruin]

I think an email should be sent to artists attending the alley - I would not have known about this unless I checked the website for another subject. They mention on the prohibited list: Metal blades (knives, swords, sharp items, etc). I bring scissors with me to set up and break down my display and need these items in most cases during my time in the alley. Also for those who crochet or knit, needles and hooks are considered sharp objects as well.

[FarFromRedemption]

I sewed hidden pockets all over my cosplay so I wouldn't have to bring a bag. Problem solved

I have to agree with you. I try to only use the pockets in my cosplays to avoid carrying a bag. I have always found carrying a bag to be a pain in the butt. If I need to bring something extra my fiancé is carrier of my cosplay repair kit so between the two of us we usually have one small bag.
Bag checks aren't a crisis. Heck I went though TSA twice in the past week for work and that process took a whole on I'd say 5mins and this was at Logan airport.
here are some helpful tips to make any bag check/security run easier for you.
1. Have you bag open and ready to be looked at
2. Have your badge clearly displayed
3. Be respectful of the guards
4. Don't act suspicious
5. Remember your just 1 of 20,000 faces they will see they will never remember you or the hentai in your bag

In the words of a special friend of mine "You are not a special snowflake, no one cares."

[Fetch]

I would not be surprised to see entrances of the Hynes cordoned off in some fashion as to keep people in line for entering and exiting, as well as to keep people from just standing around within a certain distance of the doors.

I know in the past the MCCA and Prudential security have tried to keep people from standing around the Hynes/Pru door, as it blocks people from getting through that area. I think they might be a good bit firmer about that this year.

[nagash]

I actually want to thank AB for getting the word out as soon as they did. I'm running one of the fan tables so I apologize ahead of time if I hold up the line on the bag check (carrying in a lot of stuff on a 2-wheeled luggage rack).
I'd rather the bag check wasn't there but there's no getting around it this year. In the future, who knows, but for the time being, it's here, and we all have to deal with it (even the staff if the MCCA and BPD are running the bag checks).

[azyryan]

I sewed hidden pockets all over my cosplay so I wouldn't have to bring a bag. Problem solved

I have to agree with you. I try to only use the pockets in my cosplays to avoid carrying a bag. I have always found carrying a bag to be a pain in the butt. If I need to bring something extra my fiancé is carrier of my cosplay repair kit so between the two of us we usually have one small bag.
Bag checks aren't a crisis. Heck I went though TSA twice in the past week for work and that process took a whole on I'd say 5mins and this was at Logan airport.
here are some helpful tips to make any bag check/security run easier for you.
1. Have you bag open and ready to be looked at
2. Have your badge clearly displayed
3. Be respectful of the guards
4. Don't act suspicious
5. Remember your just 1 of 20,000 faces they will see they will never remember you or the hentai in your bag

In the words of a special friend of mine "You are not a special snowflake, no one cares."

These tips made me smile...the last two things are totally true...I understand why you may be embarrassed or worried about what people mayb think but it's true there's thousands of people there its a slim chance the guard will remember you XD

[Calorie]

I think an email should be sent to artists attending the alley - I would not have known about this unless I checked the website for another subject. They mention on the prohibited list: Metal blades (knives, swords, sharp items, etc). I bring scissors with me to set up and break down my display and need these items in most cases during my time in the alley. Also for those who crochet or knit, needles and hooks are considered sharp objects as well.

I agree with this.

Not a lot of attendees, exhibitors, or vendors will check the AB website religiously. I happened to check and saw the announcement... but I normally do not check the AB website or follow any of the AB social medias.

[Fullflame]

I think this is a perfectly reasonable precaution. My only hopes is that it can be handled effectively and efficiently. Because dear god we do not need another line-con.

I would recommend people to switch to smaller bags, or bags with few pockets.

I, personally, am not going to bring a prop that I brought last year (a large scythe, not sharp, but it is made of wood) and I'd recommend that if you are questioning your prop in any way that it's better to just leave it at home this year.

[Shinden]

I sewed hidden pockets all over my cosplay so I wouldn't have to bring a bag. Problem solved

I have to agree with you. I try to only use the pockets in my cosplays to avoid carrying a bag. I have always found carrying a bag to be a pain in the butt. If I need to bring something extra my fiancé is carrier of my cosplay repair kit so between the two of us we usually have one small bag.
Bag checks aren't a crisis. Heck I went though TSA twice in the past week for work and that process took a whole on I'd say 5mins and this was at Logan airport.
here are some helpful tips to make any bag check/security run easier for you.
1. Have you bag open and ready to be looked at
2. Have your badge clearly displayed
3. Be respectful of the guards
4. Don't act suspicious
5. Remember your just 1 of 20,000 faces they will see they will never remember you or the hentai in your bag

In the words of a special friend of mine "You are not a special snowflake, no one cares."

These tips made me smile...the last two things are totally true...I understand why you may be embarrassed or worried about what people mayb think but it's true there's thousands of people there its a slim chance the guard will remember you XD

You people honestly have no damn clue what social anxiety is, do you?

If we could be cured from a couple backhanded sentences on a goddamn forum then it wouldn't have a fracking name. This is honestly like telling a person with Down's to stop making that face.

It's not about if they will remember us. It's us remembering the exchange. Ever do that thing where you remember something really embarrassing that happened in high school like six years ago and you lie awake for several hours with that heavy feeling in your chest? Does saying "well nobody else remembers" really, honestly make you feel any better? I'm really, really jealous then. Because none of this poopy you're saying is making anyone feel better, and it's actually incredibly inflammatory and horribly insensitive.

I'm already pretty scarred from the exchanges I have had with the staff of this convention. One who rolled her eyes and made a snarky reply when I stuttered a bit while asking her if I could use a certain, completely empty stairway ("I-I-I DONNO?! I-I-IS THERE A S-S-SIGN?!"). I just needed to find a bathroom after that. Another memorable event was the infamous 2011 Easter Pogrom when they screamed bloody blue murder at us to get the hell out of the convention centre immediately after the closing ceremonies ended. I left something behind by accident and was scared shitless to ask to go grab it because I felt as if I was being thrown out of the ghetto and into a cattle car. And the nice couple of security guards who said during a slow time at the gates on Saturday night they "can't wait for this to be over so I can get away from these friggin costume children" and the reply of "it's happening next year, too. We should call out sick."

2011 was by far the worst year in terms of the poor staff treatment. 2012 wasn't a whole lot better, though. These people are used to the convention centre hosting people in suits, and will be trained to deal with, in a heightened security protocol environment, to deal with people in suits. If previous years are any indication the floor staff of the Hynes looks at this event with distain, just like anyone who works retail looks at Black Friday or inventory night. We are their Black Friday, and now they have to staff already congested doors with extra people where they already screamed at us and glared at us with impatience for not sticking badges straight into their faces and acting like we're in a hundred-metre dash.

[MetalshadowN64]

I sewed hidden pockets all over my cosplay so I wouldn't have to bring a bag. Problem solved

I have to agree with you. I try to only use the pockets in my cosplays to avoid carrying a bag. I have always found carrying a bag to be a pain in the butt. If I need to bring something extra my fiancé is carrier of my cosplay repair kit so between the two of us we usually have one small bag.
Bag checks aren't a crisis. Heck I went though TSA twice in the past week for work and that process took a whole on I'd say 5mins and this was at Logan airport.
here are some helpful tips to make any bag check/security run easier for you.
1. Have you bag open and ready to be looked at
2. Have your badge clearly displayed
3. Be respectful of the guards
4. Don't act suspicious
5. Remember your just 1 of 20,000 faces they will see they will never remember you or the hentai in your bag

In the words of a special friend of mine "You are not a special snowflake, no one cares."

These tips made me smile...the last two things are totally true...I understand why you may be embarrassed or worried about what people mayb think but it's true there's thousands of people there its a slim chance the guard will remember you XD

You people honestly have no damn clue what social anxiety is, do you?

If we could be cured from a couple backhanded sentences on a goddamn forum then it wouldn't have a fracking name. This is honestly like telling a person with Down's to stop making that face.

It's not about if they will remember us. It's us remembering the exchange. Ever do that thing where you remember something really embarrassing that happened in high school like six years ago and you lie awake for several hours with that heavy feeling in your chest? Does saying "well nobody else remembers" really, honestly make you feel any better? I'm really, really jealous then. Because none of this poopy you're saying is making anyone feel better, and it's actually incredibly inflammatory and horribly insensitive.

I'm already pretty scarred from the exchanges I have had with the staff of this convention. One who rolled her eyes and made a snarky reply when I stuttered a bit while asking her if I could use a certain, completely empty stairway ("I-I-I DONNO?! I-I-IS THERE A S-S-SIGN?!"). I just needed to find a bathroom after that. Another memorable event was the infamous 2011 Easter Pogrom when they screamed bloody blue murder at us to get the hell out of the convention centre immediately after the closing ceremonies ended. I left something behind by accident and was scared shitless to ask to go grab it because I felt as if I was being thrown out of the ghetto and into a cattle car. And the nice couple of security guards who said during a slow time at the gates on Saturday night they "can't wait for this to be over so I can get away from these friggin costume children" and the reply of "it's happening next year, too. We should call out sick."

2011 was by far the worst year in terms of the poor staff treatment. 2012 wasn't a whole lot better, though. These people are used to the convention centre hosting people in suits, and will be trained to deal with, in a heightened security protocol environment, to deal with people in suits. If previous years are any indication the floor staff of the Hynes looks at this event with distain, just like anyone who works retail looks at Black Friday or inventory night. We are their Black Friday, and now they have to staff already congested doors with extra people where they already screamed at us and glared at us with impatience for not sticking badges straight into their faces and acting like we're in a hundred-metre dash.

Dammit, man. If it is really that big of an issue for you just don't go to AB - period. You'll save yourself $50+ from the registration and stuff. You can live without your hentai manga if its that big of a friggin deal to you over your inability to just deal with the BS from the guards.

Hell, you could always grow a set and bring it up with the AB staff its THAT BIG of an issue. Don't just roll over and cry and complain over it after the fact, cause that just solves nothing.

EDIT: And FYI: I do know what social anxiety/disorder is. I feel like slamming my head against concrete for things that happened 10 years ago sometimes. But guess what? I live with it, and mostly gotten over it. If I can, anyone can.

[Faceman]

This discussion has deteriorated from the original topic.

While we sympathize with any issues or reservations our attendees may have, this policy is being implemented by the Massachusetts Convention Center Authority (MCCA) and not by Anime Boston itself. We have no direct control over the planning or execution over the Bag Check Policy.

However, we have been working with our contacts at the MCCA to try to alleviate some of your concerns and ensure that this is a fast and non-invasive procedure. We appreciate your understanding and cooperation.

If you have any issues at the convention, please talk to Security at the checkpoints and they will try the best they can to assist you.

I'm locking this thread, as we've gone far off the original course.